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Friday, May 26, 2006

Re: My post yesterday: MNN "Poor sports" in Ontario. 6 Nations "shut out"

It seems that this article from MNN that I posted yesterday did not tell the whole story: MNN "Poor sports" in Ontario. 6 Nations "shut out"

Today I've received an email from someone who is on the Six Nations reserve, and was informed that: "The games were called off because one was for Monday when all hell broke lose and the others due to the power outage that effected the reserve as well as all the other people you have heard about. They were told it would take 3 to 4 days to get power back on. So all games have been put over till next week."

I apologise for the misinformation in my previous post, and will try harder to sift through all the information I receive from different sources and hopefully find the gem of truth, since I am a seeker of truth and I do not feel good about my error.

However, the article does give us some insight into the emotions of some people and the need for dialogue, patience and understanding of the different view points. We have not always treated the Native People with the respect that they deserve. Indeed, many grave wrongs and atrocities have been perpetrated upon them by us and our governments. I can only hope that the voices of reason, justice and peace will prevail and that negotiations proceed in this spirit.

8 comment(s):

How does her original article give any insight into anybodies emotions but her own?

By Blogger localyokel, at 8:20 PM  

Although people are frustrated and emotions run high on all sides, keep in mind that the Six Nations people were wronged, as indeed were all of our First Nations peoples. These wrongs must be righted, the grievances properly addressed and issues settled in a judicious, just manner.

In Ms. Horn's article I read the underlying pain and frustration of many of her people. It is in this context that I wrote the sentence to which you refer.

Please try to put yourself into other people's shoes before you so quickly judge their actions.

By Blogger Annamarie, at 11:54 PM  

You are forgetting that I live RIGHT HERE in the thick of things.

When I see thefacts of the matter stretched and twisted, it angers me.

I thought that you would defend democracy not fight against it. By supporting the Confederacy and not the elected Band Council, you are supporting a system that would see a select few of the families on the rez gain all political power and therefore all economic power...is that what you want...a select few controlling the masses.

If there is something about this you don't understand in your desire to get the land claims settle, please ask. I have learned so much in the last little while and it is so confusing to people who have not researched and observed.

I don't believe that you have been provided with the COMPLETE story in this matter and I believe you, because you are so inherently nice, are being used as pawns by the protesters/ confederacy.

By Blogger localyokel, at 9:07 AM  

Thank you for your comments. Perhaps you can provide me with a few links so that I may read more about the Band Council vs the Confederacy.

The way I understand it, the Confederacy rule is the legitimate rule, according to their Law. (I am not saying this correctly, as I've had a long day with outdoor family events, returned home a little while ago, and am too tired to make sense.)

However, any links you could send me would be appreciated.

BTW, you can email me using the link in my profile.

Thanks!
amd

By Blogger Annamarie, at 12:53 AM  

There are two questions that Yokel touches upon here.

Firstly: possible contradictions in the Haudenosaunee's traditional form of government (the claim that supporting the Confederacy means "supporting a system that would see a select few of the families on the rez gain all political power and therefore all economic power...")

And secondly the question of the role of us settlers in the liberation struggle being waged across this continent by First Nations people.

In regards to the first point...

Historically and currently those societies with the greatest divide between rich and poor, and the greatest centralization of wealth and power in the hands fo a few families, are cetainly not the the First Nations. No, that prize goes to that "one person one vote" country just to the south of us, the USA. Which is why many people refer to their system pejoratively as "bourgeois democracy", not as a real democracy.

Currently, in the midst of global capitalist decay, would traditional Haudenosaunee forms of social organization be able to withstand the pressure to adopt capitalist values, standards and practices? I have no crystal ball - and neither does Yokel! - and i admit the capitalist tsunami is difficult to imagine resisting... but i certainly don't assume the Haudenosaunee would do any worst than "our" governments, with their cult of the free enterprise.

Which impacts on the second aspect of this question: there is a liberation struggle being waged at Six Nations, and across this continent. I see no sign that this struggle is either anti-democratic or pro-capitalist. Most importantly, though, it is a struggle grounded in the First Nations, and as such i imagine it will be up to people from those nations to determine the form and content of their struggle.

For myself, as a member of the settler nation, my hope is that we build liberation movements of our own, dealing with our problems and the oppressions (different, but real nonetheless) that many of us suffer, as well as our responsibility to resist the violence done in our name. In doing so we may certainly borrow from and draw inspiration from the more advanced First Nations struggle (as for instance the women's movement and sections of the radical left already have), but we're going to have to figure out a lot ourselves.

To me, this should be our priority, not trying to sort out how other nations should organize their affairs.

By Blogger kersplebedeb, at 11:15 AM  

Thanks, Kersplebedeb, for your good, elucidatory comment. I am in full agreement.

By Blogger Annamarie, at 3:01 PM  

"To me, this should be our priority, not trying to sort out how other nations should organize their affairs."

I agree wholeheartedely. However, you only have to read what is posted to see that we DO have an interest in how other nations organize their affairs.

Although, we are often unhappy with how our governments deal with situations, we are in effect the very people that have put them in office, so the responsibility is ours to elect people that we feel will do the best for Canada.

We struggle to support our fellow man to bring democracy to their countries as well. I am surprised that such a left wing group as yourselves would support anything other than a full democracy...regardless of whether it is the best way or not. How would you suggest that we govern ourselves if not through democracy?

The Confederacy or traditional government is based on clanmothers, etc. These people all come from the same families...do you see how problems could arise!!!!

It will be interesting over the next few months to see how this plays out. As I have told Sketch, David General (the elected Chief) is going to be on CHML the Thursday. He has made it clear that Six Nations must decide on a form of governance that all can agree with. That's why I was asking if other nations had this in place. I know Awkwasasne does not and from what I can tell, the people do not really want the traditional government.

Google in "Threats to Traditional government" and it will tell you the problems with the Mohawk Warriors...remember they are supporting the protesters too.

Annamarie, I don't think that you will ever find any links to the confederacy/ elected controversy. You have to read between the lines.

You have probably figured out that I have absolutely no use for Hazel Hill. Most of what she says is untrue. (I know, I am here.) Believe her if you want, but I don't think that most of the people at Six Nations have much use for her either.

Annamarie..what do you consider legitimate...by birth you are entitled....didn't we give that up with the kings and queens.

When I come upon an interesting link, I will forward it to you.

Take care and for god's sake quit posting K. Horne...she is a joke.

By Blogger localyokel, at 10:47 PM  

Dear Annamarie:

Here is website that give some information about the Mohawk Warriors. Everyone keeps saying how peaceful they are, funny, a lot of the aboriginals don't think so
http://sixnations.buffnet.net/Threats_to_Traditional_Governments/

By Blogger localyokel, at 7:03 AM  

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