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Wednesday, March 08, 2006

Ontario Clean Air Alliance: Nuclear Not Popular

Nuclear among least popular electricity options

Ontario voters want an electricity plan that emphasizes efficiency and clean renewable power instead of nuclear energy, a public opinion poll conducted for the Ontario Clean Air Alliance (OCAA) has found.

A strong majority of voters believe that the OCAA is on the right track with its proposal to increase efficiency, develop more clean renewable power and use high-efficiency natural gas-fired power plants as a bridging technology, with 65% supporting this approach. Only 12% of Ontario voters are opposed to the OCAA's strategy.

By comparison, fewer than 10% of those surveyed thought that the province should turn to nuclear power first to meet its electricity needs. New nuclear power plants were ranked just ahead of new coal plants at the bottom of the list of options for meeting Ontario's electricity needs.

Close to half of Ontario's voters (48%) also said they would be more likely to support a party in the 2007 provincial election that planned to meet Ontario's electricity needs without building new nuclear power plants. Only 11% said they would be more inclined to support a party that was committed to new nuclear power plants.

Ontarians remain committed to phasing out dirty coal power, with 55% endorsing the government's 2009 phase-out deadline and 70% saying that coal emissions were harmful to health in the province. But the overall poll results indicate that they also want the province to emphasize efficiency and renewable power to get the greatest benefit from the coal phase-out.

"Clearly Ontario voters are rejecting the Ontario Power Authority's plan that would increase our electricity consumption by 20% over the next 20 years, and that calls for meeting 60-80% of our incremental electricity needs by re-investing in nuclear power," says Jack Gibbons, Chair of the OCAA.

The full polling results are available on our website at www.cleanairalliance.org

Please pass this message on to your friends.

Thank you.

Jessica Fracassi
Communications & Membership Manager
Ontario Clean Air Alliance
402-625 Church St, Toronto M4Y 2G1
Phone: 416-926-1907 ext. 245
Fax: 416-926-1601
Email: info@cleanair.web.ca
Website: www.cleanairalliance.org

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The Ontario Clean Air Alliance is a coalition of health, environmental and consumer organizations, faith communities, unions, utilities, municipalities and individuals working for cleaner air through a coal phase-out and the shift to a renewable electricity future. Our partner organizations represent more than six million Ontarians.

4 comment(s):

In as much as you have no comments on your blogging I might as well nail it here:

You posted on Terry Glavin’s blog the other day a very pointed elucidation of what seems an inner conflict that tears at you from within. You express sincere condolences to Trevor Greene’s family and expand on your inner revulsion for such needless loss. You say:

“My thoughts and prayers go to Trevor Greene, his family, his friends.
What happened to him is terrible, tragic, totally unwarranted, inexcusable.
All violent acts perpetrated by human beings upon each other are terrible, needless, inexcusable.
That said, I am against the war, because of it being a "war", whereas 'peacekeeping' should be that: 'keeping the peace', and 'promoting peace' by truly humanitarian actions.
A family friend's son is also in Afghanistan. He too believes he is helping, and making a genuine difference. I honestly don't know..”

Well, maybe we can communicate but I doubt it. The fact that you said,

“I honestly don’t know”

Gives me a window, unless you are only saying that to pretend that you really are looking at all sides of the equation. Your writings give me the impression that you are a blind idealistic peacenik I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you don’t really know.

Sincerely, I find it really hard to understand that you, if I am to believe what you have posited as your genesis, that being a victim of the eastern European desecration of humanity now want to give in to what-ever totalitarian scum who would snuff you in an instant, just so you can rise above the fray and say, “I was pure,” I did not raise my hand to my fellow man!

“Maybe I am naive, but I feel that peace can be achieved only by peaceful, diplomatic means.”Democracy" (or any kind of regime-change) must come to a country from within, not foisted arbitrarily at gunpoint (and bombs) from outside, by another nation.”

No you are not naïve. You are an Idiotarian. You are a useful idiot! You and your ilk are responsible for millions of unnecessary deaths in the world and yet you espouse a useless and totally ridiculous mantra. There are hundreds of thousands of dedicated nut jobs out there who would like nothing better than to torture, rape and then kill you in the most brutal manner you could ever imagine.
What boggles the mind is that you profess that we can negotiate, talk, reason, and come to an understanding or whatever with these brutal bastards. You are NUTS.
So, by your own standards, when we liberated Paris from the Nazis, we did wrong? And the Parisians euphoria was a sham?
Your idealism is not to be commended. You are a pathetic and sad individual who has for whatever reason shirked her responsibilities as an honest citizen of Canada and capitulated to a cowardly agenda of appeasement.

You want an honest and believable reason for being in Afstan? Let me give you one!
An oppressed people who cry for help need support.
Are you so calloused that you don’t know what the Taliban did to women in Afghanistan?
Have you not seen the clandestine videos of the butchery of women in the Olympic stadium?
Are you nuts?
You disgust me!
You portend to be a woman of letters and in reality you are a disgraceful shill and enabler for any petty dictator who would enslave his people.

I hate to say it but it needs to be said. You are a gutless woman. Your peace crap is just that, “shit.” I cannot fathom how anyone who is being targeted for extinction can just sit there and say “Ok, bring it on, I won’t stop you, in fact, I will enable you.”

You say:
“My problem is with the bellicosity of people like Hillier who want to "kill the scum", and such statements that echo those of Bush & Company.”

What’s your problem with killing the “scum” that have no compunction about killing you because you are on his band wagon?

Again, are you nuts?

You say:

“Large numbers of armed soldiers--regardless of how well-intentioned they may be--look like occupation forces to the Afghanis, rather than peacekeepers, especially if they are aligned with the U.S., who is seen as the 'big bully' since its invasion of Iraq.
(Perhaps if the U.S. withdrew from there altogether, NATO peacekeeping could begin in earnest without the U.S. who are perceived as 'occupiers'.)? “

You make no sense whatsoever! Afghanistan was forcibly taken over by a bunch of nut jobs. The people couldn’t even open their mouths without being shot. WE liberated them! We are helping them get their self esteem back. We are helping them keep out the outsiders who would enslave them AGAIN! They are organizing their own government with our help. You need to really listen to some of the people who have come forward and said what our intervention has meant to the common folk.

Your obsequious pandering to folks like St. Noam gives the lie to your real agenda as pathetic as it is. Please spare us the odd pandering effusive,”But I care” platitudes.
You couldn’t care less! It’s your “I don’t care if everyone on earth is butchered but I didn’t lift a hand so you can’t blame me,” attitude that really defines you.

You remind me of those poor disillusioned Jews who, as they were marching to the gas chambers of Auschwitz were heard to say, “We’ll be ok as long as we don’t upset them.”

By Blogger Capt.Craig, at 7:39 PM  

and so much for discussing the issue of "nuclear not popular"...

Capt. Craig, thanks for trolling and exposing yourself to be not much more than what you've accused verbena-19 to be 'useful idiot' (to borrow a popular phrase of the 90's right-wingers).

While verbena-19 may be too left, I would say that you're probably too far on the right.

"You and your ilk are responsible for millions of unnecessary deaths in the world ..." And so are yours. While I don't think some force is out of the question, sometimes it's been the answer way too quickly and justified wrongly. The result, millions of unnecessary deaths...

I seriously question whether or not any of this will actually seep in and be considered rationally (for what rational is worth). You should be keeping an open mind and discussing someone's point of view rather than going off on a tangent and attacking a person with $5 words, it help you find the answers you and everyone else are truly seeking.

By the way, Verbena-19, good post. I'm glad to hear that nuclear power isn't supported by the public. It was the nuclear power plants that drove Ontario Hydro into the ground and gave Harris the justification to partially privatize. Now they serve private interest rather than the public's, which is the point.

By Blogger Kyle, at 8:28 PM  

Thanks, Kyle, on both counts.

I'm still trying to figure out how I and my "ilk are responsible for millions of unnecessary deaths in the world..." according to Capt.Craig.

He is a very angry man!

As for the Afghanistan situation, I keep saying "I honestly do not know", which happens to be true. It is because I speak with Afghanis who live here but have family back there, and believe me, I do get different opinions. So it is not so simple, not so 'cut and dried'. Although they abhorred life under the Taliban, they did not want their country bombed in the process of removing those cruel autocrats. Many do not like what is still going on there, and fear that Afghanistan won't be liveable for a very long time to come. They also do not care for the U.S. puppet.

Then I speak with soldiers who are valiantly trying their utmost to help and rebuild and make a difference over there. Hence, I repeat: "I honestly do not know."

Admittedly, I am somewhat left of centre by some peoples' label (although I don't care for labels, and consider myself a progressive humanist, if anything), I keep an open mind and try to listen and understand other viewpoints, as long as they are put forth in a logical, intelligent manner. I can take criticism too, but do not care for nastiness for its own sake. I refrain from vituperative remarks and name-calling, and expect the same in return.

I agree with your statement: "And so are yours. While I don't think some force is out of the question, sometimes it's been the answer way too quickly and justified wrongly. The result, millions of unnecessary deaths..." So true!

And agree about the nuclear power plants. We need to find renewable sources of 'clean' energy. Nuclear is not the way to go. Ultimately the price we'll pay for it will be too high, and I don't mean $$. For the sake of maximizing profits, corners will be cut, mistakes will be made, and lives will be jeopardized, regardless of how 'safe' the nuke power plants try to tout this form energy. For more information about this, check out the Clean Air Alliance website:
www.cleanairalliance.org

Take care, Kyle, and thanks again!

amd~

As for Capt.Craig, I do not think your comment warrants an answer. You did not leave the door open for any normal discourse. You were too busy berating me.

By Blogger Annamarie, at 2:44 AM  

P.S. to Capt.Craig:

We do seem to have one thing in common: the composers Liszt, Wagner, Chopin.

amd

By Blogger Annamarie, at 2:46 AM  

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